[originaltext]Woman: Some people are very cynical about uh... television as a m

Woman: Some people are very cynical about uh... television as a medium. I’ve heard it said that it’s... it’s not entertainment--it’s uh...simply a commercial enterprise...
Man: It has a tendency to make you feel that way, and I think that uh...more and more all the time, uh... the producers are being made aware of this...
Woman: Uh-huh...
Man: That.., that’s why broadcast stations are granted a license--is to educate as well as entertain. And in many cases, they lose sight of this fact, and they strictly entertain. And they don’t con sider the masses, They consider what they like rather than what the masses like. So, who’s go ing to say what’s a fair rating system?
Woman: Uh-huh.
Man: I wish somebody could create one that the people could control, rather than the few--because then it would be an indication of what the people really want.
Woman: You would think that they have uh... People complain about uh... violence.., on... on television...
Man: No, I don’t go for the violent stuff too much. I think that’s one of the reasons I like to work cartoons--is they’re a less violent medium. And uh...it...it gives an actor an opportunity to ex press himself in a way that you can’t do on live action in front of the camera.
Woman: Uh-huh...
Man: Because you can do voices, and you can do interpretations--wild characters that you could never do otherwise, because nobody would ever cast you for that sort of thing. Especially, they cast you for the way you look on camera...
Woman: Right...
Man: They cast you for the way you sound on cartoons...!
Woman: You’ve done a lot of uh...a lot of cartoons?
Man: Oh, yeah. I’ve done...
Woman: Through the years, and uh... you say, some Disney uh... feature films...
Man: Yeah. The uh... well, the first one I ever did uh... was uh... Lady and the Tramp--with Disneys. And then uh... Hundred and One Dalmatians and uh. . . Mary Poppins . . .
Woman: Those are feature...
Man: ... wide varieties of characters...
Woman: ...feature films, aren’t they?
Man: That’s right. And...
Woman: A lot of the cartoons are animal characters...
Man: Oh, yeah. They are almost all animal character. But now in ... in... uh... Lady and the Tramp, for instance, I did both animal--animated characters, uh... and uh... those that were being live-action humans--I would do their voices too.
Woman: Uh-huh...
Man: And then there’s another phase of the cartooning business a lot of people don’t realize--that when Walt Disney uh... gets much lifelike qualities into his cartoon characters, it’s because of...
Woman: What...
Man: ...of taking...
Woman: What do you mean by "lifelike"...
Man: Well, lifelike, I mean the action...
Woman: ...speaking and the...
Man: The action is so lifelike, I mean, little...little uh... movements--tiny movements in the fingers and the anus, in the torso, in the running...
Woman:   Uh-huh
   Man: ... the expression on their faces. They, in many times, are created by an actor being called to uh., .
   Man: ... work on the mock set. It’s not really a full set, and you have suggestions of the.., of the clothing--the wardrobe...
   Woman: Uh-huh.
   Man: ... that is to be worn in the actual picture. Then they photograph you on 35 millimeter just exact ly like they would if it were live action... Woman:   In other words, you are suggesting that for a lot of the animation, the.., the general way was ac tuaUy to use humans firsto
   Man: Well, actually, they...
   Woman: The actor was...
   Man: ... did not start this rotoscoping concept first, That came later. The way it was normally done to begin with is that the drawings were all made, and then the actor would sit and look at the film, and try and get a sound of "woof," "yip," "woof," you know, "Oh, I know what you’re going to do..." you know.
   Woman: Hmm...
   Man: And you’ d do it according to what that active character on the screen would be showing you. Uh... it was so much fun in those days because the organist would sit there, and he’s to play the background music, you know. Then, they would uh... supposedly, have this sound as close to "sync" as they could make it. Walt himself used to do his own voice by looking at the screen and having a microphone in front of him.